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Larry Norton, MD

Tracks 1-21
Track 1 Introduction: Kenneth B Schwartz
Track 2 Case discussion: A woman with metastatic breast cancer who wants to adopt a child
Track 3 Balancing patient psychosocial support with clinical assessment of disease
Track 4 Losing a parent to cancer: Impact on children and adolescents
Track 5 Influence of parental coping on children’s adjustment
Track 6 Case discussion: A 47-year-old woman with metastatic breast cancer is involved in a custody dispute for her children
Track 7 Exploring the nature of the doctor-patient relationship
Track 8 The role of humor in cancer care
Track 9 Clinicians coping with stress and burnout in oncology
Track 10 Case discussion: A 54-year-old woman who became depressed after completion of adjuvant therapy
Track 11 Counseling patients about adjuvant dietary and lifestyle interventions
Track 12 Post-treatment adjustment difficulties among cancer patients
Track 13 Adherence to long-term adjuvant hormonal therapy
Track 14 Facilitating communication about medication adherence
Track 15 Case discussion: A woman in her mid-thirties who developed metastatic breast cancer during pregnancy
Track 16 Professional satisfaction in helping patients and families cope with challenging circumstances
Track 17 Role of cancer survivors and the healthcare team in providing support to patients
Track 18 Examples of Schwartz Center rounds in practice
Track 19 Psychological and emotional preparedness of younger physicians to practice oncology
Track 20 Integrating hospice into end-of-life care
Track 21 Palliative care of breast cancer

 

 

“It has been a harrowing experience for me and for my family. And yet, the ordeal has been punctuated by moments of exquisite compassion. I have been the recipient of an extraordinary array of human and humane responses to my plight. These acts of kindness — the simple human touch from my caregivers — have made the unbearable bearable.”

— Kenneth B Schwartz

Shortly before his death from lung cancer at age 40 in September of 1995, Kenneth B Schwartz established an organization dedicated to strengthening the relationship between patients and caregivers in the changing healthcare system. Ken viewed the Center as a vehicle to advance the ideas, hopes, and concerns that he expressed in his article, ‘‘A Patient’s Story,’’ published on July 16, 1995, in The Boston Globe Magazine....

During his ten-month ordeal, Mr Schwartz came to realize that what matters most when a medical issue arises — whether for ourselves or a loved one — is the “human connection” between patients and healthcare professionals. This special Roundtable discussion is dedicated to the Schwartz Center, a multidisciplinary forum in which caregivers discuss difficult emotional and social issues that arise in caring for patients. More than 26,000 clinicians at 129 sites in 26 states participate in these interactive discussions and share their experiences, thoughts and feelings on a variety of topics.

SOURCE: www.theschwartzcenter.org


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End-of-Life and Hospice Care

Arrow DR CAREY: I introduce the hospice discussion early. Each time we make a decision on active therapy versus symptom management, I remind patients that their condition isn’t curable and that when they’re tired of treatment, we can move on to simply managing their symptoms. I don’t want it to be a surprise when I suggest that maybe it’s time to stop active treatment.

Arrow DR BURRIS: Every Monday, after the weekend call, a little confrontation arises in our group because some clinicians can’t talk to their patients about hospice. I have some colleagues whose patients are on hospice for 1.5 days. Hospice should be a six-week experience at a minimum, and it’s meant to be up to six months or longer.

Arrow DR WOLFF: The national average for the amount of time patients are in hospice is approximately three days.

It takes five minutes to say, “Your cancer has progressed. Let’s change treatment.” It takes an hour to say, “Your cancer has progressed. Maybe it is time to stop doing treatment.”

Sometimes we have not had those conversations until that moment. We can start conversations earlier about how far we may go, but that’s easier said than done.

ArrowDR WINER: We need to discuss, set and recalibrate expectations with the patient along the way. That requires spending a good deal of time on many different occasions talking to our patients about where they are in their trajectory.

Organizing an Approach to End-of-Life Decision-Making

Coping with Burnout in Oncology

Arrow DR BURRIS: I have witnessed some colleagues lately who made me think, “I don’t want to end up practicing oncology like that.” They make business relationships with patients and quit having the personal interaction. Some become guarded. I believe the oncologists who handle their practices in a healthy fashion appreciate how short life is and the need to take advantage of what you can while you’re here.

ArrowDR WINER: I work out religiously — for my brain, not my body. Work creeps into my life at many hours of the day and night, but I also really enjoy what I do. It helps to have colleagues to talk to who deal with the same problems. If you wall yourself off from patients, then I believe you burn out. Dealing with some of these challenging issues and getting to know patients help protect you because you feel that you’re doing the best job you can.

Arrow DR WOLFF: One of the key issues in taking care of myself is to try to enjoy what I do. In many cases, we are helping people survive. In other cases, we are not, but we are helping them and their families cope with a difficult situation. Diversity in my work also helps, as does having a balanced life in terms of exercise, physical activity and time with my family.

Effect of Exercise After Completed Treatment for Early Breast Cancer

Qualitative Study of Children’s Perceptions of the Mother’s Breast Cancer

Impact of a Parent’s Cancer Diagnosis on Young Children

ArrowDR WINER: How kids fare depends on how the parents cope with their experiences. I often tell people this is why they need to obtain help and support for themselves. The better shape they are in psychologically, the better the kids will adjust to these difficult situations. One good reason to try to get their act together emotionally and psychologically is that their kids will do much better, not only while they’re sick but years afterwards. When secrets are held in the family and communication is poor, the kids feel it and everything falls apart.

Arrow DR CAREY: Many of our patients don’t have their young children participate actively in their care, and I generally advocate against that. I believe the pediatric oncologists are much more thoughtful about these issues, and they have found that children fare much better with honesty. What children invent in their heads, if you try to protect them, is worse than the reality. In general, they tend to feel better if they’re participants in the process. In my own clinical experience, when the parents do include the children, the function of the family seems to be better overall.

Psychosocial Issues in the Postadjuvant Period

Arrow DR CAREY: Among patients completing adjuvant therapy, subclinical and clinical depression are far more common than we have recognized. Data from the psychiatric literature suggest that a form of post-traumatic stress disorder occurs in many patients. However, it has not been established how aggressive we need to be in diagnosing and treating this condition. I know a psychologist who works with many of my patients and is especially attuned to these issues. Often my patients see her for a few months after completing adjuvant therapy.

Arrow DR BURRIS: Some patients don’t want to think about their cancer, but a substantial proportion of patients would just as soon come in every month and ask, “What can I do now?” Without a magic prevention pill, diet and exercise seem to be solid with regard to enhancing immune system functioning.

Arrow DR CAREY: I have patients who engage in exercise and lifestyle modifications, but I advise them that I don’t know that it will affect their breast cancer recurrence risk and that they are not in charge of whether their disease comes back.

ArrowDR WINER: The syndrome of falling apart or having a hard time at the end of adjuvant treatment should not be viewed as the exception. It happens with the majority of patients and is the result of transitioning to a time when they’re receiving less support from us, seeing us less frequently, no longer focused on completing treatment. Their personal problems, put aside during therapy, can come crashing back when treatment is completed.

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