Interview
with Neil Love, MD Breast Cancer Update for Medical Oncologists,
Program 6 2000
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Weve
now got really good evidence that five years of tamoxifen is better
than two years of tamoxifen. Its not a big difference, but
its a real difference. We got 20,000 women randomized. 10,000
of them got about five years, 10,000 got about two years. But we
can now see that there is a small, but real, difference with five
years of tamoxifen being better than just two years of tamoxifen.
We dont have comparable data in terms of whether ten years
is better than five years. Theres a fair number a few
thousand women whove been randomized, but theyve
been randomized so recently, most of them, that weve hardly
got any follow-up on them. In terms of recurrences, weve got
a few hundred recurrences, whereas in the trials of five years versus
two years, weve got a few thousand recurrences. So, we dont
have reliable information on whether ten years is better than five
years. And even worse, the recurrences that we do have, nearly all
of them in the first few years after randomization, where the carryover
benefit from that first five years is still going to be providing
a lot of protection in the control group. The real question is,
"Breast cancer is a disease with at least a 20-year natural history.
Would 10 years of tamoxifen be better than five years of tamoxifen
in terms of providing protection against recurrence in the second
decade after diagnosis?" And if youve got a woman aged 50
and a woman aged 60, the question is, "Whats going to happen
in terms of 20-year outcome?" And theres almost as many breast
cancer deaths in the second decade after diagnosis as in the first
decade after diagnosis. Weve really got to think on a long
time scale. When you do that, then the idea that ten years might
be better than five years actually becomes quite interesting. But
youve got to be saying, "Is 10 years better than five years
in terms of what its doing to breast cancer recurrences, the
breast cancer deaths in that second decade after diagnosis?" Weve
got virtually no information in that second decade. And theres
just a few dozen recurrences, which slightly favor longer treatment.
The
idea that there might be some serious adverse effect on breast cancer
from carrying on longer, I think, has disappeared. That, in retrospect,
was just a chance fluctuation, a zig in one trial, which has been
counterbalanced by zags elsewhere. Now its just averaged out.
So, I dont think theres any reason to fear that longer
treatment 10 years of treatment is going to be any
worse in terms of having an adverse affect on breast cancer itself.
But whether its going to actually have any worthwhile benefit
in that second decade, I think, is still unanswered.