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            Dr Love: Debu, How often do you
              see axillary node recurrence in a woman who’s had axillary
              node dissection? 
             Dr Tripathy: In the published
              literature, we see axillary node recurrence in five to ten percent
              of women who have had axillary node dissection. There are obviously
              different determinants in the risk, such as number of involved
              axillary nodes, grade of the tumor, etc. In the Canadian study
              of postmastectomy radiation, local recurrence rates were 35 to
              40 percent.  
             As Dr Seidman pointed out, brachial plexopathy and axillary recurrence,
              especially with lymphedema, is a very challenging clinical problem.
              I would rely on systemic chemotherapy in the palliative setting,
              very similar to the way you would treat someone with, for example,
              symptomatic pulmonary metastases. As we hear more about this case,
              it sounds unlikely that the patient will be a surgical candidate.
              The changes in her arm and the possibility of lymphedema and brachial
              plexus involvement are concerns.  
             I disagree with the use of radiation therapy in this case. This
              patient probably received 5,000 cGy. It’s hard to conceive
              that an additional 2,000 cGy, which would be the absolute most
              you could deliver, would help much. In fact, causing an iatrogenic
              brachial plexopathy and lymphedema is more likely. I think we’re
              left with palliative chemotherapy as our main option. 
             Dr Love: Dr Argawal, what did
              you decide to do? 
             Dr Argawal:  I gave her four
              cycles of carboplatin and docetaxel, and she had an excellent response — actually,
              I was amazed. The response was so good that she didn’t want
              to come for the second cycle — her daughter convinced her
              to continue. The mass was much smaller, the node was smaller and
              the swelling in her arm had almost completely resolved.  
            After four cycles of chemotherapy, the surgeon was able to perform
              a mastectomy with a part of the pectoral muscle dissected, completely
              resecting the mass. Six of lymph nodes out of seven were positive.  
             She is now completely healed and there is no evidence of disease.
              She will also receive additional radiation.  
             Dr Seidman:  If she is very
              motivated, she could enter a vaccine clinical trial. Otherwise,
              I don’t believe there is anything else you should be doing
              for her. I would not continue the chemotherapy because we lack
              evidence of its benefit, and the only thing we can be certain of
              is additional toxicity in this scenario. 
            
              
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                Patient received carboplatin and docetaxel weekly
                  (3 weeks on, 1 week off) x 4; tolerated chemotherapy well but
                  had several treatment delays due to grade III and IV 
                  hematological toxicity | 
               
              
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                Excellent response; beginning after the first
                  cycle, mass and lymph nodes smaller on physical exam and CT
                  (Figure 1b); arm swelling resolved | 
               
              
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                Underwent a mastectomy, partial resection of
                  pectoralis muscle and axillary node dissection (6/7 nodes positive);
                  recovered well with no evidence of disease | 
               
              
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                Will receive additional infraclavicular and axillary
                  radiation | 
               
             
              
             Dr Tripathy: This patient is
              technically NED. You could argue that the likelihood of recurrence
              is so high that an additional two cycles of chemotherapy might
              delay that recurrence, but it’s hard to believe this would
              improve long-term outcome and survivability. This patient has completed
              local therapy and has negative margins. I would probably stop at
              this point.  
             Radiation will probably lower the risk of local recurrence, but
              the trade-off will be a fair amount of toxicity, especially with
              taxanes and I would be concerned about radiation recall phenomena.
              Careful shielding and careful attention to detail in port planning
              is essential if the patient is going to undergo radiation. 
             Dr Brooks: How would you follow
              a patient like this? My experience is that physical examination
              is not very sensitive after these salvage surgical procedures in
              the infraclavicular and axillary regions.  
             Dr Seidman:  I agree, but I
              would add that routine imaging studies to detect subpalpable disease
              radiographically will probably not change the ultimate outcome
              for the patient. So, from a cost-effectiveness standpoint, physical
              examination and imaging directed by physical examinations and by
              symptoms would be indicated. 
             Dr Brooks: I disagree. I am
              a proponent of using tumor markers. I would also use CT scans.
              I favor the imaging approach because of the availability of more
              tolerable chemotherapeutic agents, such as capecitabine, which
              almost deserves its own class. I wouldn’t give her multi-agent
              chemotherapy based on a CT scan finding, but I believe that you
              can intervene early with capecitabine in a case like this. I think
              that you can treat an ER/PR-negative cancer with capecitabine early
              on with a good conscience. 
             Dr Seidman:  In a patient like
              this with a very high risk of tumor recurrence — particularly
              if I knew she had elevated markers at the time of her six-centimeter
              mass — I, too, would keep my antenna up by following tumor
              markers to intervene early. 
             Dr Love: Dr Argawal, did this
              patient have tumor markers checked? 
             Dr Argawal:  No, I didn’t
              follow tumor markers. 
             Dr Love: Dr Seidman, if, for
              example, this woman’s CA 27.29 was very elevated, then dropped
              down by a quantum amount after the carboplatin/docetaxel, and dropped
              down further after surgery but was still elevated, what would you
              do?  
             Dr Seidman:  I would reiterate
              Dr Brooks’ comments about capecitabine. I would not treat
              a patient with rising tumor markers with any cytotoxic chemotherapy
              agent other than capecitabine. I would have a discussion with the
              patient about the watch-and-wait approach — beginning therapy
              at the onset of symptoms as opposed to the onset of a rise in biochemical
              markers. But having said that, once you open the box, it’s
              hard to close it. 
             Dr Tripathy: I agree with Dr.
              Argawal’s approach. I would not check tumor markers in the
              first place. I don’t know of any reason to use markers, because
              it’s not clear that initiating therapy based on marker elevations
              helps patients’ outcomes in the long term. 
             I don’t want to be absolute about it. The fact of the matter
              is that I actually have this discussion with patients. I tend to
              sway them away from using markers, but I do tell them that there
              are very rare potential scenarios in which one, in retrospect,
              might say, “I wish I’d used a marker.” For example,
              in a patient who develops a fairly rapid complication, such as
              a tumor-related brachial plexus problem, by the time you start
              them on chemotherapy you cannot alleviate symptoms. You might have
              saved, or at least delayed, the onset of that problem. 
             The risk of using tumor markers in this type of situation is
              that we might over-react. We take a patient who perhaps didn’t
              need to be exposed to the side effects of chemotherapy for quite
              some time, and expose them much earlier because of elevated serum
              markers, but we don’t affect their overall clinical course
              or their survival. The serum marker problem can cut both ways in
              terms of helping you or hurting you. 
            Dr Love: If you believe that
              adjuvant systemic therapy increases survival by treating micrometastatic
              disease, why would you not believe that treating Stage IV NED — particularly
              when you have an in vivo demonstration of active chemotherapy agents — might
              give her a chance of surviving? 
             Dr Tripathy: If we had more
              effective drugs, it’s quite possible that a rising serum
              marker, or even a positive PET scan might actually result in an
              improvement in outcome. In fact, we know that is the case in lymphoma
              and testicular cancer. However, in breast cancer we don’t
              have good enough agents to do that at this point. 
             The second point is that two Italian studies have looked at serum
              markers, and there was no difference in outcome between patients
              who had them checked versus those who did not. The markers did
              predict in which patients cancer was going to recur. A serially
              rising serum marker is associated with an 80 percent likelihood
              of developing metastases. However, in some cases, these metastases
              do not develop radiographically for two or three years. So you
              have a patient in limbo, and you can’t do anything. At this
              point, there’s no evidence that rising serum markers can
              help you treat a patient. They are predictive, and that’s
              why the FDA approved them, but they just don’t help with
              patient management. 
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